Objections To the Doctrine of Everlasting Security Answered (Objection 4)

February 9, 2011 at 9:34 am | Posted in Eternity, Luke, Matthew, parables | 7 Comments
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Objection: I believe that I can lose my salvation because Luke 8:13 says, “They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.” To me this is going back to free will. We have the free will to walk away.

Answer to Objection: Luke 8:13 is not teaching that you can lose your salvation. You need to read the whole parable that Jesus is teaching. Some people hear the Word of God, but it lands on their stony heart. It is like seed on a rock. It can not send down roots. There may be a thin layer of soil on the rock, so that it looks for a little while like something is growing from the seed. But sunlight shines down on it (the heat of temptation), and it shrivels and dies and falls away. If it had roots, the heat would have made it grow, not die. These are people who look like they got saved until temptation came, and it was revealed that they never got saved to begin with. They did not “lose their salvation.”

Objection: But what about Deuteronomy 30:17-20: “But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them; I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, and that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it. I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.”

Answer to Objection: Deuteronomy 30:17-20 does not teach that you can lose your salvation. When God renewed His covenant with the people of Israel as they prepared to cross over into the promised land of Canaan, He told them that if they disobeyed, they would die. If they obeyed, they would live long and prosper. They could be blessed for obedience or cursed for disobedience. This is speaking about prolonging their days upon the land, and the “length of their days on the earth,” not eternal salvation. Eternal salvation is by grace through faith, not through keeping the Old Testament Covenant.

Objection: What about Matthew 5:13?

Answer to Objection: Matthew 5:13 is not teaching that you can lose your salvation. “Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.” Salt in Bible times could go bad or spoil, and then it would be useless for bringing out the flavor in food, and for preserving food. Jesus is saying that you are no good as a disciple if you won’t bring the truth of God’s Word to the people with whom you come into contact. We should cast people out of the church fellowship and positions of ministry if they are not acting as salt and light.

I have seen God convince some people of the truth of eternal security. Some people I have seen simply do not want to believe it. It is important that we do not try to find Bible verses that will fit into what we want to believe. There are whole ministries and denominations out there built around teaching that Christians can lose “their” salvation. These preachers think that people will just sin as much as they want to after they’re saved, and that we can’t trust God to get saved people to do what He wants us to do. But we must let the Bible tell us what is true even if we don’t happen to like it. I hope you will prayerfully consider that Jesus can not lie. If He has promised to take all those who have once been saved, and to keep them saved forever, what makes you think this is the one exception where He would lie? If you think you are keeping yourself saved, then you are giving yourself the glory, and you may be trusting in you, instead of trusting in Christ. But if God is keeping you saved, then He gets the glory, and you must put all your trust in Christ and not in yourself.


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  1. In reference to “Objections To the Doctrine of Everlasting Security Answered”…I was looking to see if you tackled Hebrews 6:4-8. I think that one can be misunderstood but unless I’m mistaken it was explaine dto me at my local Bible school that that verse referenced not being able to repent or escape a sin or those unsaved (I’m unsure if either was the case, I apologize). Either way…I know what Jesus stated & God cannot lie (once saved always saved & no one can pluck us out of His hands). So all Scriptute must be intereprted in light of Scripture. Just wondering what you thought in regards to this Hebrews Scripture.

  2. LYNNE: Thanks for reading and commenting. I have also heard that Hebrews 6:4-8 can be used as a false proof text by those who deny eternal security. Just at a glance it looks to me like the Holy Spirit is using a hypothetical in those Verses to say (among other things) that, IF the gift of the Holy Spirit COULD be lost, it would be impossible for the person who lost Him to ever be saved again – unless Jesus came to be crucified again, which we know He is not going to do. This would then be a passage of Scripture that refutes the beliefs of those people who think they not only need to be born again, but need to be born AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN… each time they sin badly enough. However, I probably need to study the passage more carefully before writing a post on it. If you are interested, here is a series of posts on eternal security that I did a while back: https://swimthedeepend.wordpress.com/2010/03/22/the-bridegroom-cleans-his-bride%E2%80%99s-wedding-gown/

  3. I do believe in OSAS but how would you explain the following from Ephesians 5? 3 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. 4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. 5 For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.[a]

  4. Great question. For those readers who may be following along, “OSAS” stands for “once saved always saved,” [ https://swimthedeepend.wordpress.com/2009/12/17/temporarily-saved-is-not-really-saved-at-all-3/ ] which is a phrase sometimes used to refer to the doctrine of eternal security or everlasting security [ https://swimthedeepend.wordpress.com/2010/10/29/discipleship-lesson-2-everlasting-security/ ]. My understanding of Ephesians 5 is that it builds on what was stated in Chapter 4 (see the “therefore” in 5:1), where we are told that the sins of believers “hath been” (past tense, once and for all, 4:32) forgiven [ https://swimthedeepend.wordpress.com/2009/10/20/all-in-the-past/ ], so that, in Chapter 5 believers are told how we ought to live in light of that great forgiveness. The idea is that the sins listed verses 3-5 are the kinds of behavior that is deserving of God’s wrath, and that those are the types of things which forgiven believers must avoid if they are to walk in love (v. 2) [ https://swimthedeepend.wordpress.com/2009/06/08/like-father-like-child/ ] and in light (v. 8) [ https://swimthedeepend.wordpress.com/2009/08/10/this-big-light-of-mine/ ]. Hope that helps. Thanks for reading and commenting.

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